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Re: NAS-T
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2021, 08:08:33 AM »
The last of the pieces for the headers will be here tomorrow.  I replaced the freeze, (block expansion) plugs on the 348 and located a new starter from my stash of parts.  We dropped off the 700R4 at the transmission shop last Tuesday to have it freshened up and have reverse repaired.

The new starter is  for the smaller 153 tooth flywheel, so I ordered a brand new one and a full set of mounts for the front and rear mounts for the engine.

The parts are starting to stack up!!  I'm gonna' hafta' start putting stuff together or I'll be moving out into the yard to find a place to work on stuff!! 
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Re: NAS-T
« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2021, 06:47:32 PM »
I got the 700 back on Wednesday!  The starter I found is for a 153 tooth flywheel and it won't bolt up on the 348.  I ordered a flywheel to go with that starter and I'll swap it and the starter for the one I have on the 350/350 project I'm putting together to sell.  The 350 has the bigger flywheel and starter on it and that will work on the 348.

Got motor mounts to go with the engine brackets so's I can have the engine/trans mounted on rubber.  The collectors for the headers came in too.

Gonna hafta' start building pretty soon!!  I'm running out of places to put stuff!!
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Re: NAS-T
« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2021, 08:53:58 PM »
Started to stretch the frame on the T and found the rails have been patched too many times already.  I ordered a new spring perch, a steering box bracket, and front cross member.  I bought a stick of 2"X3" rectangular tubing locally and I'll replace the frame rails with new longer ones when the crossmember and spring perch get here.

I found a dual quad intake manifold for the 348 for a good price on Craigslist and it arrived today.  Didn't really need it, but I wanted it, so that's all that needs to be said.  I started on the headers too.  I'll put up some pics when I get 'em downloaded.

I finally got the front spindles pulled and sent to Speedway to be machined for the disc brake kit.

Lots going on, but I can't seem to get this foot healed up so's i can get back to really doing stuff!!
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Re: NAS-T
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2021, 08:12:30 PM »
Got the spring perch and steering bracket, along with a section of round tubing for the front crossmember last night.  UPS runs here 'til 9:00 pm!!

Ordered it last Friday and it's here already!!


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Re: NAS-T
« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2021, 09:31:23 AM »
I’m trying to get a bunch done before I go to have more surgery on my foot next Thursday, the 17th.
Jeff 73 Came over yesterday to help, so we chopped the rear kick up portion off of the old frame and welded up the new front frame rails and crossmember and welded the kick up to the new rails. I spent a lot of extra time squaring and leveling the pieces, too much time, considering that I had it really right almost from jump.  The old kick up was not square or level to begin with, but after a lot of massaging, we got it squared up nicely.  Jeff cut the old suspension brackets for the rear end off and the kick up while I drilled and hole sawed the front ends of the new rails to accept the new front crossmember. It’s all firmly tacked together and back on the jack stands.

The new spindles will be here Monday and I can assemble the entire front end all the way to the tires. I’m going out to the shop today to finish welding the frame up and start getting the rear end housing ready to hang.  I’m replacing EVERYTHING in the rear suspension, so starting over on that is the next priority there.

If I can stay at it, I may have it rolling before I go to the hospital!

I’ll try to catch up on pics tonight or tomorrow.  My phone and my computer ain’t co-operating right now.
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Re: NAS-T
« Reply #30 on: June 15, 2021, 07:45:08 PM »
 So! The new spindles arrived, but no kingpins or bearings or small parts.  I ordered a complete new kingpin set which is supposed to be here tomorrow. Now I have to find someone to ream the bushings before I can install the disc brakes.

We finished welding up the new front frame rails and Jeff73 got all of the suspension brackets cut out, trued up, and cleaned up. I had to relocate the rear radius rod mounts on the frame because I’m using different radius rods and a bigger rear end housing. The ‘61 Oldsmobile is considerably larger than the GM 10 bolt. I had to cut the axle brackets for the radius rods off of another 10 bolt rear end that was junk.  We used the same rear frame mounts, just moved ‘em forward a little.  I’ll open up the axle brackets to fit the larger tubes. I have new coil over mounts for the housing. I pre-assembled them and we removed the track bar bracket from the 10 bolt to be welded to the Olds.  I’m going to try to get the rear axle housing ready to hang tomorrow.

I bought a new 3” drop spring perch for the front axle.  We lowered the front of the frame rails to compensate. It gives the frame a sweet looking rake. New, (different) front radius rod mounts for the frame ends.  More substantial and WAAAYY better looking.

I’m scheduled for more surgery on my foot for Thursday morning, so I may not get to work on it much for a while after the surgery.  I’ll find someone to do those kingpins, ( don’t have a reamer for them) and have that done while I am laid up.
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Re: NAS-T
« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2021, 07:24:43 PM »
Got the disc brakes and steering all done today. Went to town to pick up the rest of the bolts I needed and some lug nuts and different spring U bolts, (Me and the spring shop guy miscommunicated on the dimensions).

Jeff chauffeured me around and did most of the leg work ‘cause I’m nursing the bad foot and I ain’t supposed to be putting any weight on it.  We got back to the shop and started dragging boxes of parts out to assemble the disc brakes and steering. I modified the spindle arms to clear the rotors while Jeff drilled the lower bolt holes in the spindles to take the bigger bolts that were needed to attach the arms.  I also cut down the front bolt bosses to allow for the caliper brackets. We drilled the lower holes in the brackets for the steering arm bolts and installed the new spring bolts. After several trial fits and a little sanding, the steering arms now clear the back side of the rotors and everything rolls nicely. If I do this again, I'll have a bevel turned on the back side of the rotors instead of taking material off of the spindle arms.

We then assembled the rotors, bearings, and seals and installed 'em on the car. The kit supplies all the bearings, seals, and hardware but some of the bolts had to be replaced with larger ones because my old parts used larger bolts.  If you buy one of these kits, be sure to get all; the related pieces or be prepared to make some changes!!  Otherwise, it all lines up great and goes together easily.  One of the calipers had the outside O rings improperly installed, so I had to pull it back off and fix that issue. Took half an hour to get the O rings fitted correctly.

Anyway, I got it all set up, with some big help from Jeff and we went to install the wheels. The damned lug nuts were JUNK!! Not inexpensive, mind you! They were just CRAP!!  We sorted through the whole set to find ten that would hold. The threads were terrible and just wouldn’t hold. I’ll buy good ones before we roll it out, but these will do to set everything up and roll it around the shop. I'm replacing the clevises on the front of the radius rods with new heim joints. It'll require drilling the batwing brackets on the front axle out to 5/8". The heim joints arrived about half an hour ago, so I'll install them in the morning.

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Re: NAS-T
« Reply #32 on: June 24, 2021, 05:39:56 PM »
I went back and installed the late arriving heim joints today.  The threaded shanks are shorter than the ones on the old clevises. Not a problem on the bottom joints because they are plenty long to work there. The change in spring height and the rake in the frame made it necessary to lengthen the top tubes a little. I took grade eight fine thread nuts and welded one each to the top tubes, using the old clevises as guides to keep the threads aligned. One of ‘em worked well with little difficulty removing the clevis and running a tap down the tube to clean up the threads. The other one locked up tighter than hell!! I had to get my son to come out and unscrew it ‘cause I’m not supposed to be on my foot and so I couldn’t use the pipe wrench and cheater pipe it took to get it out!!  The shank had galled and it shed threads as it came out. The threads in the nut and tube cleaned up fine with the tap and there was no more damage.

The new stuff makes the suspension much safer and allows it all to move more freely.  Looks a lot better too!!

NOTE:  I've flipped that last picture every way i can and it still comes out upside down!! :P
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Re: NAS-T
« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2021, 05:56:33 PM »
I got a text in reference to a piece I have on Craigslist today while I was out chasing parts and hardware.  I’d broken the defuser on the little MiG welder and I needed to get one of my cordless drill motors repaired.

I took the wife with me so’s we could get breakfast while we were out.

This guy pestered me, haggling on price, wanting me to deliver, trying to lowball me before finally agreeing on a price and saying he’d come this afternoon.

I went out to the shop when I got home and repaired the welder. Then I set in on getting the Olds rear end ready to hang.  I was welding the ladder bar brackets on when I broke the MiG gun yesterday, so I went back to finish that up and moved on to the shock mounts and the track bar bracket. When all of that was done, I drilled out the ladder bar brackets for 5/8” heim joints and pulled the old joints and clevises and replaced them with new ones.

I lack drilling the backing plates and axle flanges and assembling the whole shebang!!  I may have to drill new holes in the front ladder bar brackets to compensate for the rake in the frame and I’m going to add some braces between the tubes on the ladder bars to strengthen them, but we may have a rolling chassis by first of the week!!

ANYHOW! The dipstick that pestered me all morning never showed up!!  Go figure!!

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Re: NAS-T
« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2021, 04:55:50 PM »
Got started early this morning with a trip to the hardware store.  I needed some abrasive wheels and a piece of flat steel strap.  I plated the rear shock/spring mounts and we set the rear axle on the floor jack for a first trial fit. As it sits, I’m not real happy with the rake in the frame, but I think I will probably notch the frame and steal another couple of inches at the back.

I decided that I want to set the height with the tires on the axle. That way, there will be less chance of surprises. SO!! I began setting up the axle studs and rotors. I drilled and threaded the axle flanges, relieved the area on the back side of the flanges to clear the jam nuts that lock the wheel studs, and drilled the holes in the rotors to fit those big drive studs. When I went to check the studs in the wheels, I discovered that the previous owner had over tightened the lugs, (probably repeatedly) and had distorted the holes in the wheels. I fixed the first one and I’ll do the other one tomorrow .

Gotta cap the ends of the shock perches and cut, form, and weld on the upper shock brackets tomorrow and bend and shorten the rear track locator bar.  I’ll probably raise the front attaching holes for the ladder bars about an inch too.

I have a few pics.  I’ll add some more detailed shots later.
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Re: NAS-T
« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2021, 12:51:38 PM »
I got an early start this morning..  First, I finished the second axle for the Olds rear end and mounted the wheel on it..  Needed it  done so I could level up the rear end and finish the upper shock mounts on the frame. It all leveled up nicely and I got the shock brackets centered up and welded them on. I replaced the rh heim joint in the track locator. It wouldn’t screw in further, so I figured it was bad.  Turns out, the tubing wasn’t threaded deep enough and I had to pull it and run a tap in to finish the threads. I’m glad it wasn’t the left handed end!!

I relocated the frame bracket for the track bar and I’ll remake it later with a bend in it to clear the differential.

ANYHOW! It rolls and bounces and it’s ready to have the engine and transmission set in to figure out the engine mounts and crossmember.!!

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« Reply #36 on: July 05, 2021, 02:49:45 PM »
I started to take the day off, but Jeff73 came over and we started straightening up the shop.  We didn’t get far before getting sidetracked.  We pulled down his tubing bender and formed the track locator bar to clear the top of the differential housing.  First time we ever used it and it did the job perfectly!! 

Next, we got the 348 off of the stand and bolted the transmission to it, picked it all up and set it in the frame.  I need to fab up motor supports and figure out a transmission crossmember..  It was a little tricky getting it all set in, but I think it’ll look great and work better when we get done with it!!


This was the first opportunity to roll the chassis around. It's smooth and easy to roll, even with the engine and transmission sitting on the frame, it moves almost effortlessly. Gave us a chance to figure the rear end gear ratio!  In all the time that I've had that differential, I've never bothered to check the ratio.  It's a 3.23:1!  I'll be cruising along at 75 mph and it'll be turning 1,900 rpm!!


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Re: NAS-T
« Reply #37 on: July 06, 2021, 11:53:58 AM »
I think it is a 3.08 rear end and you'll be turning 1750 RPM.

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« Reply #38 on: July 10, 2021, 07:18:36 AM »
WOW Y'all been busy! Looking good. Sorry to hear about your hoof. Hopefully it gets fixed this time.

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« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2021, 06:41:03 PM »
I'm hating it, but I'm beginning to get used to having that foot out of commission!!  Seems like lately it's messed up more than it's well!!

Yeah!!  We've been getting after it on both cars. I spent a couple of hours yesterday, setting up the front shock brackets on the Model A and tacking in the pass through tubes to get the rack & pinion steering through that frame.

Jeff is planning on spending some time on the Model A body this week while I'm gone to a major Cowboy shoot up in Kentucky. It's sort of a working vacation since I'm taking my hat shaping gear and the band is playing to close the show on Saturday!!  I've been slowly packing all my stuff, (most of it had to go through the laundry) for the last three days!!

I ordered the channels to lower the T over the frame rails, Thursday.  They SHOULD be ready by the time I get back on Monday, the 19th.

Y'all have a good week!!
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« Reply #40 on: July 12, 2021, 01:36:42 PM »
I would like to challenge the assertion that I am going to do anything productive this week.  I MIGHT go remove some bondo from a cowl side panel, but then again, I may just look at it and decide that it can wait!

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« Reply #41 on: July 27, 2021, 11:03:35 AM »
SO!!  I had a little vacation and made a little money.  My band put on a great show and I came home with a broken foot!!

Same foot!  Broke the bone behind the little toe, just a little back of where the surgery was done a few weeks ago.  Don’t have a clue as to how I did it!!  So now I’m in a cast since last Monday and it looks like I’m going to be in it for a few more weeks..

The shop that was making my channels made them wrong and can’t make what I want without doing it in multiple pieces.  May have another outlet. I’m not wanting to use multiple pieces for sealing and possible rust issues down the road.  I’m thinking this one is likely a keeper.!!

I have ordered more little items to complete the build and I’ll probably be back in the shop in the next day or two!!
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