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Re: NAS-T
« Reply #50 on: September 08, 2021, 06:05:25 PM »
Another pretty good day in the shop.  The shocks and brackets and the brake kit came in yesterday. I went out there to start mounting the shocks, or at least get all the brackets trimmed and shaped to fit and get ‘em tacked in.  I got the lower mounts done and was starting on the uppers when one of my neighbors from across the street pulled up in front of the shop.  He had my driveshaft loops and the crossmember for the rear loop in his car!  The stuff had been addressed incorrectly and was sitting on his back porch in the rain!

I stripped all the wet cardboard off of everything and wiped it all down.  I put the shocks aside and went to cutting and fitting the new crossmember.  This one is made so that the loop can be unbolted for removing the driveshaft.  I had a little trouble getting everything cut down, centered, and lined up properly, but after one try that required cutting the tacs off and starting over, I got it all like I wanted it and welded in the stubs, drilled them for bigger bolts, and welded in the crossmember. I may trim another inch off of the rear loop.  I jacked up the back half of the car and the rear axle only dropped about an inch.  There's three inches of loop[ below the driveshaft at that point, so I think I'll go for a little more ground clearance there.

Got band rehearsal tomorrow, so I doubt I’ll get out there to get any real work done.  I’m planning on finishing the front loop and getting the shocks mocked up and everything welded in place on them.  My headlights are supposed to be here tomorrow!  Gonna be interesting to see how I can mount them up and make ‘em look right. Friday should be a busy day!!

As usual!  Pics when I get ‘em downloaded and edited.
« Last Edit: September 08, 2021, 09:57:02 PM by Blackwater »
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Re: NAS-T
« Reply #51 on: September 10, 2021, 08:35:44 PM »
Another pretty good day today.  I set in on installing the front shock pieces.  I’d bought a pair of upper shock mounts and a pair of chrome shocks with just over 5” of travel.  My plan is to give this car a little smoother ride than Lockjaw.  I jacked up the car and measured the drop in the front suspension.  It only dropped an inch and a half!  I set one of my ramps under the right front wheel with a 4”x4” block on the ramp. 12” high on that side and the left front was just touching with me sitting on it.  With the shocks fully extended, they still had a little room to spare.  After caging the shocks at 2 1/4” down travel, I mocked ‘em up and checked everything again.  I cut 2” off of the upper mounts and tacked them in place.  Then I positioned the lower mounts and tacked them in too.  I checked everything once more and then removed one hairpin at a time and welded the lower mounts on them. I decided to add a brace between the bars to spread the load created by the shock action. 

I moved the driver’s side track bar bracket up about 1/2” to level it out.  Looks better and will work better too!  I welded the upper mounts onto the frame and then reinstalled the hairpins and the shocks. 

I went to put the thing back on the ground and my floor jack wouldn’t pick it up!!  Low on hydraulic oil!!  Reckon I will have to go get some in the morning.

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Re: NAS-T
« Reply #52 on: September 11, 2021, 06:13:52 PM »
Mostly just cleaned up the shop today. Tried to service the floor jack, but it appears that it has more problems than low fluid.  I’ll take it to be repaired next week.

We tried something new with the tubing bender today.  Made a loop for the Model A to hang the pedals on. Turned out pretty good after we figured out what adjustments needed to be made.  I didn’t take pics of it yet.

I had Jeff cut down the front loop for the T and I welded it in.  I DID get a shot of it.  I think we swept up five pounds of grit where we’ve been cutting and shaping parts for both cars.

I think I’m getting back into shape most of the time, but I was just short of worthless today!! We only worked for about three or four hours before I had to call it a day!!
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Re: NAS-T
« Reply #53 on: September 13, 2021, 05:28:50 PM »
I did a little straightening again yesterday, but mostly just kicked back and watched some racing.  Tried to watch football, but the home team was playing so lousy that I switched to the Indy Car race.

Went to Jeff’s for supper and to pick up another floor jack.  Food was great and the jack is BIG!

I decided to concentrate on the rear brakes today. I’m adapting the rear disc brakes off of a 1996 Caprice cop car.  I bought the car for the transmission and the fuel injection and I got rear disc brakes and all the electronics and harnesses, plus a nice big tub full of small parts and stuff in the bargain.  The car was only $350.00 and I could drive it!

I had already started on this months ago and got sidetracked with a hospital episode. When I got back to it, there were a bunch of other things I needed to do and it got put off.  Now I’m down to a few items that need doing before I strip everything off the frame and flip it over to finish all those things that need to be welded from the bottom.  If I were any good at overhead welding, I might not have to flip it, but I think it’s a good idea for me to do what I know will get it right.

Anyhow! I fell in on the brakes and re-drilled the backing plates to fit the Oldsmobile axle tubes and modified the axle retainers to clear some of the stuff like parking brake actuators and casting bosses that line up the parking brake “shoe”.  The shoes are actually rings that expand when the parking brake is applied.

I had to remove some material from the backing plates, (they appear to be cast steel or cast iron) where they have extra material that won’t allow an axle retainer to lay flat.  These brake assemblies are originally found on rear ends that use internal axle retainers, (C clips) so the castings have reinforcements that aren’t needed with a steel outside retainer.

I didn’t take a lot of pictures because if you do one of these, it’s probably not going to be on one of these old rear ends.  I’ll add a few more pics as I finish the other side.  Incidentally! The backing plates are very similar and they mount differently.  One mounts what appears to be upside down! I got the passenger side all put together, up to bolting on the caliper brackets and calipers. I’m doing it in small steps to make sure it all gets lined up correctly and works right the first time.

I got tired and stopped when I got the rotor on and the wheel installed.  I’ll get back to it Wednesday.  Doctors tomorrow.  Pics later
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Re: NAS-T
« Reply #54 on: October 09, 2021, 07:08:43 PM »
I didn’t get to jump right back on the brake assemblies right away. I wound up with some major trauma involving my band.  I’d already had to hire a substitute bass player for a big gig down in Texas and we’d gotten most of the show worked out. On Monday, my #2 guitar player called to tell me his mother-in-law had been hospitalized with end of life projection and that he was going to miss the show too! I had to scramble to find another guitar player, which turned out to be easier than finding the bass player.  ANYHOW, we got more rehearsals done, went on down to Texas, and put on a pretty good show.  The rented bass player turned out to be really talented, but a real prima donna, trying to upstage the rest of the band and whining the whole trip!!

On the way home, my number one guitar player sideswiped a road sign and dragged the band trailer off into a ditch.  Bent the axle slightly and banged up both doors on his SUV.  It wasn’t too bad and we were able to get back to Nashville without any further problems.  I had him bring the trailer to my shop where we were able to straighten the axle perfectly. We knocked the doors on the SUV out enough to let them open and close and got it to where he could open and close the driver’s window.  He’s back on the road and insurance will fix the vehicle.

I took the next week off just to let my foot rest and recuperate. Went to the doctor on Tuesday and he was extremely pleased with how it’s healing up! He had released me, conditionally with the warning that the broken bone wasn’t going to heal and it has remained in place! So long as nothing goes wrong, I don’t have to go back to see him until after New Years!

SO!! I fell back in on the brakes yesterday and finished making the missing parking brake actuator lever, (picture #7) and assembled the passenger side rear brake and backing plate. When I put the rotor on, the spacing was wrong. The rotor was out away from the backing plate and I could see the back edge of the parking brake shoe.  Those cast backing plates are much thicker than the original sheet metal units that came on the Olds rear end and I had spaced the axle OUT to compensate.  Turns out I should have placed the spacer on the outside of the axle bearing. I was tired and disgusted, so I took the afternoon off.

Today, I pulled the axle and removed the lock ring that I’d modified to go behind the bearing and reworked it again to fit outside the bearing.  It’s a BITCH to get it all stacked in place and get the axle retainer bolted in. Takes three hands to keep everything where it needs to be, but once it’s all fastened together, it really works well and there’s no end play or slop in the axle! If I have to go back into it, say, to replace a bearing, I’ll glue the lock ring/spacer to the front of the bearing!

I went on and duplicated it on the driver’s side, installed the backing plate and brake shoe, and adjusted the parking brake shoes and installed both rotors. Spacing is dead on and I can actually work those parking brake levers by hand and they apply and hold!!  I still have to install the calipers and pads, but with the wheels installed, it all spins freely and it’s smooth as glass.

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« Last Edit: October 09, 2021, 07:58:02 PM by Blackwater »
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Re: NAS-T
« Reply #55 on: October 09, 2021, 08:43:03 PM »
Nice work! Sorry to hear of all the band problems. Seems like when it rains it pours sometimes...
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Re: NAS-T
« Reply #56 on: October 11, 2021, 02:55:53 PM »
I spent the day Sunday doing some cleanup on a couple of projects on the T. I pulled the rear hairpins and shortened ‘em about 3/4”. It really only involved removing the front heim joints and cutting off the required amount of threaded tubing and reinstalling the joints. Of course one of ‘em was stubborn and had to have the tube re-threaded. This moves the rear end forward the corresponding 3/4” which will give me more adjustment in the rear suspension.

I pulled the front hairpins. I haven’t been happy with how much thread is outside the bosses on the tie-rod ends used to anchor the hairpins.  They’re 11/16”X 18 tpi. I’d have just welded a couple of nuts on the ends of the tubes, but nobody had full nuts!!  Plenty of jam nuts, which I ordered a couple of, but no regular full thickness nuts!!  SO! I ordered a couple of 11/16” weld in bungs and shortened them up to give me the extra length I wanted.  They come with turned down sleeves on them, but that part isn’t threaded, so I cut the sleeves off and welded the bungs on the hairpins.  Makes it WAAAY stronger!!  I didn’t photograph any of this ‘cause ya’ really won’t see much difference.

We also worked out some of the suspension details on Jeff’s A Model.  Lots of small details that, if not worked out in order, will pile up to create real problems!!  I know it’s frustrating, working through all the steps and checking and re-checking everything. I’m sure it drives him batty now and then.

Today, I went out to the shop with the Model T suspension worked out to my satisfaction.  I’ll clean it up and paint it all when I tear it down to flip the frame and weld the stuff on the bottom.  I’m still planning to notch a section at the back of the frame for extra clearance over the differential. I also need to get the headers assembled and welded up and the headlights modified and mounts figured out for them.  My channels for lowering the body still aren’t ready, so I’m ignoring that project for now.

I decided to go for the headers.  Recent pics show where I’ve tacked up a couple of tubes to make sure they don’t interfere with other stuff. I pulled out the other two tubes for that passenger side header and went to work.  The tubes aren’t perfect, so I had to make some minor adjustments and I’ll have to be satisfied with the four tubes not all being perfectly aligned symmetricaly.  A set of factory roadster headers are about $1,000.00, so I can live happily with the way this one turned out. I still need to take a die grinder to the ports and brush and sand off all the spatter, but this one is complete and I will start on the driver’s side tomorrow.

ANYWAY!  Pics when I get ‘em downloaded.
« Last Edit: October 11, 2021, 03:03:32 PM by Blackwater »
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Re: NAS-T
« Reply #57 on: October 11, 2021, 06:03:50 PM »
It looks fine to me. Good work, I will always go for something I made over high priced crap.
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« Reply #58 on: October 13, 2021, 04:36:40 PM »
Had a minor malfunction yesterday that cost me most of the day. Got up and out early, intending to get the other header done. NO SUCH LUCK!!  I opened the shop and flipped the breaker for the compressor on the way to the light switches. I heard a grunt and the breaker tripped.  I tried it again and nothing.  I have the compressor in a small building by itself, so I went out and began checking everything.  Pressure switch is good. Plug secure and all the prongs are clean and bright. Check the in box on the motor and it’s good.  Try rotating the pulley and it’s all free. Chech compressor oil level… perfect!!  When I pull the cover for the start and run capacitors there’s one terminal burned off of one start cap!  Spent the rest of the day tracking down new caps and replacing them and repairing the wiring!!  By the time I found ‘em, drove to the other side of Nashville to get ‘em, gather up tools and pieces, and repair and installed everything, it was nearly dark and I was tired and a bit more than aggravated!

Meanwhile, the metal shop called and my channel sections were ready.  This morning, I went and picked up the channels, picked up a new prescription, (I’m now iron deficient on top of all the other maladies) did some grocery shopping, took the wife by the bank, and finally got home after noon.

The kid had a car in the shop and another customer in the driveway, so I fixed myself a sandwich and waited while he got done. Then I unloaded my channels and tried to decide if I wanted to do anything else.  Retirement can make you a lot less motivated, sometimes.

After spending a little time entertaining my grandson, I figured I’d finish touching up the completed header. Got it all nice and clean and decided I should hang it back on the engine so’s I’d have something to go by when mocking up the other one.

OKAY!! I drug out the other four tubes and set in on measuring and test fitting them.  Lots of trimming and dollying and grinding and doing it all several times and it’s all tacked together and squared up.  I’ll get out there tomorrow and weld it all up, IF I don’t find another catastrophe to get in the way!!

Pics in a little bit.
 
« Last Edit: October 13, 2021, 04:46:56 PM by Blackwater »
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Re: NAS-T
« Reply #59 on: October 14, 2021, 04:08:33 PM »
Just like I figured!!  I got out to the shop, flipped the welder on and turned on the gas, made one tac weld and when I pulled the trigger on another one , NO GAS!!  Reached over and tapped the gauges and they both dropped to zero!!  SO!! Off to town to get both bottles filled..  i normally keep an extra bottle, full, but with all the trips to the doc and the hospital, I forgot that I had changed out the bottle a while back!  DAMN!!

Jeff grabbed both bottles and loaded ‘em in his car and off to town we went!!  Got back and still had time to get that second header finished and hung back on the engine.  Came out pretty nice!  They’re even and look like a matched pair.!!

I’m satisfied.  Pics to follow.
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Re: NAS-T
« Reply #60 on: October 15, 2021, 05:05:57 PM »
Looks good, but to so many doctors and horspitals that I forgot what we be buildin. thanks dude for the pics.
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« Reply #61 on: October 15, 2021, 10:29:23 PM »
HEY!  Gramps!!  Good ta' hear from ya'!!  The hospital thing is gettin' old for me!! I counted medicine bottles while ago and it's embarrassing!! Eleven different meds!!

The cars are the only thing that keeps me sane right now!!  WEEEELLLL, that and the band!!  Hope I can get back to shooting some here soon!

You got anything new going on??  That van has possibilities!!


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Re: NAS-T
« Reply #62 on: October 16, 2021, 04:02:24 PM »
My wife has u beat in the pill department.....21 a day...
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